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		<title>By: Ken Walker</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-12754</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quebec&#039;s mandatory requirement has been removed as far as I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quebec&#8217;s mandatory requirement has been removed as far as I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Schimek</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-7711</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Schimek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somerville&#039;s traffic regulations (http://www.ci.somerville.ma.us/CoS_Content/documents/TrafficRegulations.pdf) include the following adopted in 2006:

&quot;Section 13-7 Lane Use in Designated Bicycle Lanes
Not withstanding the provisions of Section 13-6, bicyclists shall yield the right-of-way to motorists making a right turn maneuver in a bicycle lane. Except when overtaking a slower
bicyclist or to make a left turn maneuver, or to avoid a hazard, bicyclists shall stay within marked bicycle lanes. When making a left turn maneuver, bicyclists shall move to the center of
the roadway and execute their maneuver in accordance with the rules of the road. Bicycles shall be operated consistent with the provisions of c. 85 of the General Laws.&quot;

Lot&#039;s of problems here. Despite the last sentence, it&#039;s clearly inconsistent with state law, and therefore invalid. However, some day it might cost someone a lot of time and legal fees to find this out. Meanwhile, it&#039;s a license for harassment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somerville&#8217;s traffic regulations (<a href="http://www.ci.somerville.ma.us/CoS_Content/documents/TrafficRegulations.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ci.somerville.ma.us/CoS_Content/documents/TrafficRegulations.pdf</a>) include the following adopted in 2006:</p>
<p>&#8220;Section 13-7 Lane Use in Designated Bicycle Lanes<br />
Not withstanding the provisions of Section 13-6, bicyclists shall yield the right-of-way to motorists making a right turn maneuver in a bicycle lane. Except when overtaking a slower<br />
bicyclist or to make a left turn maneuver, or to avoid a hazard, bicyclists shall stay within marked bicycle lanes. When making a left turn maneuver, bicyclists shall move to the center of<br />
the roadway and execute their maneuver in accordance with the rules of the road. Bicycles shall be operated consistent with the provisions of c. 85 of the General Laws.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lot&#8217;s of problems here. Despite the last sentence, it&#8217;s clearly inconsistent with state law, and therefore invalid. However, some day it might cost someone a lot of time and legal fees to find this out. Meanwhile, it&#8217;s a license for harassment.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-7583</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

I seem to recall coming across a comment you made that Somerville MA has made bike lane use mandatory, but I can&#039;t find it.

Is this true - does Sommerville have a MBL law?
Are there any exceptions at all (left turns, bike lane blocked, etc.)?
Where have they installed bike lanes?
How well/poorly are they installed?
Does Massachusetts let local towns impose any arbitrary restriction on bicyclists they choose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I seem to recall coming across a comment you made that Somerville MA has made bike lane use mandatory, but I can&#8217;t find it.</p>
<p>Is this true &#8211; does Sommerville have a MBL law?<br />
Are there any exceptions at all (left turns, bike lane blocked, etc.)?<br />
Where have they installed bike lanes?<br />
How well/poorly are they installed?<br />
Does Massachusetts let local towns impose any arbitrary restriction on bicyclists they choose?</p>
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		<title>By: Incomplete Streets: How the Official Position of the Complete Streets Movement Marginalizes and Endangers Cyclists &#171; Columbusite</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-7109</link>
		<dc:creator>Incomplete Streets: How the Official Position of the Complete Streets Movement Marginalizes and Endangers Cyclists &#171; Columbusite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 22:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] vehicular cycling.  Where large systems of bike lanes have been implemented in cities such as Portland and NYC it is illegal for cyclists to not use a bike lane where present at the state level even though it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] vehicular cycling.  Where large systems of bike lanes have been implemented in cities such as Portland and NYC it is illegal for cyclists to not use a bike lane where present at the state level even though it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-6200</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bicycles are recognized in all 50 states as a legal vehicle.  Yes, more education is needed to make ALL road users aware of this fact.  

When I started commuting, I used the sidewalk.  Bicycle lanes were used, when available, but mostly sidewalks.  I did not feel comfortable using either or &quot;safe&quot; for that matter.  

Most bike lanes in Orlando, FL serve as a trap for debris swept from the travel lanes or storm runoff. I would be better off taking the grassy right of way than to use the bike lanes we have.

My story:
http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/05/20/myownignorance/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bicycles are recognized in all 50 states as a legal vehicle.  Yes, more education is needed to make ALL road users aware of this fact.  </p>
<p>When I started commuting, I used the sidewalk.  Bicycle lanes were used, when available, but mostly sidewalks.  I did not feel comfortable using either or &#8220;safe&#8221; for that matter.  </p>
<p>Most bike lanes in Orlando, FL serve as a trap for debris swept from the travel lanes or storm runoff. I would be better off taking the grassy right of way than to use the bike lanes we have.</p>
<p>My story:<br />
<a href="http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/05/20/myownignorance/" rel="nofollow">http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/05/20/myownignorance/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Are Bicycle Lanes Always Best? &#124; Best Miami News</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-6040</link>
		<dc:creator>Are Bicycle Lanes Always Best? &#124; Best Miami News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lanes. If you are not familiar with the issues that arise with bicycle lanes, read some of them at Bicycle Driving or Bicycle Universe. One example is bicycle lanes next to on-street parking. The widest car doors [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lanes. If you are not familiar with the issues that arise with bicycle lanes, read some of them at Bicycle Driving or Bicycle Universe. One example is bicycle lanes next to on-street parking. The widest car doors [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MikeOnBike</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-5404</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeOnBike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tony, I agree there needs to be more awareness that bicycle drivers generally have the same rights and responsibilities as motor vehicle drivers.  That includes turning left from the left turn lane, for example.  Or having the right to use an entire lane, if it&#039;s too narrow to share with another driver.

All drivers should be watching for all other drivers, regardless of vehicle type.  That&#039;s much easier if all drivers are following the same rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tony, I agree there needs to be more awareness that bicycle drivers generally have the same rights and responsibilities as motor vehicle drivers.  That includes turning left from the left turn lane, for example.  Or having the right to use an entire lane, if it&#8217;s too narrow to share with another driver.</p>
<p>All drivers should be watching for all other drivers, regardless of vehicle type.  That&#8217;s much easier if all drivers are following the same rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-5400</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there should be more public awareness concerning bikes and cars.  I see more and more bikes in the &quot;left turn lane&quot; along with the cars.  Some of these people will even be in the center of the lane as if they were driving a motor vehicle.  If the law allows this, than it should be known.  In Southern California is happens quite often.  I have to watch for motorcycles, now I have to be aware of &quot;Bikes&quot;.  I think they should stay in the bike lane.  &quot;BANC&quot;  Bikes are not cars!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there should be more public awareness concerning bikes and cars.  I see more and more bikes in the &#8220;left turn lane&#8221; along with the cars.  Some of these people will even be in the center of the lane as if they were driving a motor vehicle.  If the law allows this, than it should be known.  In Southern California is happens quite often.  I have to watch for motorcycles, now I have to be aware of &#8220;Bikes&#8221;.  I think they should stay in the bike lane.  &#8220;BANC&#8221;  Bikes are not cars!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Price</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-4880</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

You say: &quot;The UK has both advisory cycle lanes (use not required) and compulsory cycle lanes (use required)&quot;.  This is incorrect.

With mandatory  (not compulsory) cycle lanes it is mandatory for motor vehicle to keep out of the lane - not for cyclists to use them.  Mandatory cycle lanes are marked by solid lines.

Advisory cycle lanes are marked by dashed lines and motor vehicles can enter them if a cyclist in not in them.

In the UK it is not compulsory for cyclists to use any cycle facilities such as cycle lanes.  Cyclists have the right to use any road (except motorways).

Hope this helps.

Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>You say: &#8220;The UK has both advisory cycle lanes (use not required) and compulsory cycle lanes (use required)&#8221;.  This is incorrect.</p>
<p>With mandatory  (not compulsory) cycle lanes it is mandatory for motor vehicle to keep out of the lane &#8211; not for cyclists to use them.  Mandatory cycle lanes are marked by solid lines.</p>
<p>Advisory cycle lanes are marked by dashed lines and motor vehicles can enter them if a cyclist in not in them.</p>
<p>In the UK it is not compulsory for cyclists to use any cycle facilities such as cycle lanes.  Cyclists have the right to use any road (except motorways).</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Grant</title>
		<link>http://bicycledriving.org/bikeways/bike-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-4428</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to give my 2 cent worth. The general bashing of bike lanes, is dated and result of some decades old designs.  Much has been learned. 

In area of Sunnyvale, CA, newer bike lanes are marked and signed that near intersections cars are to merge into the wide bike lane to turn right.  IN fact at Fremont Ave and Hwy 85 the bike lane is left of the right turn lane, where it should be.  

The real value of bike lanes is to segregate modes of traffic by their speed.  In every state of the union, being picky it is unlawful to impede traffic, be you in a tractor, car or bike, if you have some many behind your vehicle (be it car, tractor or bike), you are to pull over.   Bike lanes avoid that necessity.  The safety issue for all is lane changes especially brought out with impatience cause all type of accidents, especially in cars and trucks blind spots, not just affecting bikers.  Bike lanes of busy streets improves car traffic volume capacity.

Another issue about bike lanes is in areas of high curb activity as in a commercial strip mall street, car drivers just do not notice someone in bike lanes.   That is a street design issue, that perhaps some areas should not have bike lanes, till the street layout is fixed. If there is high curb activity, then speed limits, should be fairly low, 30 MPH, more conducive to taking the lane, and safer merging of cars into car traffic too..

To claim that bike lanes are wrong and bad because local designs and driver familiarity is not up to date, or well thought out enough is folly. It leaves bikers with stone age facilities.   In our area there are many excellent bike lanes, with very few curb entrances, designed well that right hooks are very rare on these well designed bike lanes.  

(frankly I have more concerns about right hooks even taking the lane with impatient drivers on some 6 lane streets without bike lanes we have here - for those bad drivers the only solution is for all bikers to get their tag numbers and call the police, our police are very good in talking with those who drive unsafely, it seem to work for the most part.)

The best resource on appropriate deign of bike lanes I have seen so far (there are likely better ones) is the London Cycling Design Standards

Regards
P Grant Sunnyvale ,CA, USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to give my 2 cent worth. The general bashing of bike lanes, is dated and result of some decades old designs.  Much has been learned. </p>
<p>In area of Sunnyvale, CA, newer bike lanes are marked and signed that near intersections cars are to merge into the wide bike lane to turn right.  IN fact at Fremont Ave and Hwy 85 the bike lane is left of the right turn lane, where it should be.  </p>
<p>The real value of bike lanes is to segregate modes of traffic by their speed.  In every state of the union, being picky it is unlawful to impede traffic, be you in a tractor, car or bike, if you have some many behind your vehicle (be it car, tractor or bike), you are to pull over.   Bike lanes avoid that necessity.  The safety issue for all is lane changes especially brought out with impatience cause all type of accidents, especially in cars and trucks blind spots, not just affecting bikers.  Bike lanes of busy streets improves car traffic volume capacity.</p>
<p>Another issue about bike lanes is in areas of high curb activity as in a commercial strip mall street, car drivers just do not notice someone in bike lanes.   That is a street design issue, that perhaps some areas should not have bike lanes, till the street layout is fixed. If there is high curb activity, then speed limits, should be fairly low, 30 MPH, more conducive to taking the lane, and safer merging of cars into car traffic too..</p>
<p>To claim that bike lanes are wrong and bad because local designs and driver familiarity is not up to date, or well thought out enough is folly. It leaves bikers with stone age facilities.   In our area there are many excellent bike lanes, with very few curb entrances, designed well that right hooks are very rare on these well designed bike lanes.  </p>
<p>(frankly I have more concerns about right hooks even taking the lane with impatient drivers on some 6 lane streets without bike lanes we have here &#8211; for those bad drivers the only solution is for all bikers to get their tag numbers and call the police, our police are very good in talking with those who drive unsafely, it seem to work for the most part.)</p>
<p>The best resource on appropriate deign of bike lanes I have seen so far (there are likely better ones) is the London Cycling Design Standards</p>
<p>Regards<br />
P Grant Sunnyvale ,CA, USA</p>
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